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This is not a best list this is a subjective list of influential products. Heck the guy even says that he didn't like the AR 3 but put on the list because he can't ignore it. He also basically calls the Crown DC300A 'Crown sounded like early solid-state. But it was powerful, bombproof, and drove the early days of the progressive rock revolution and what was to become high-end audio.' In other words easily outclassed today but began the road to quality. Mostly interesting because it forms a history of some of the things that began down roads for good or ill like speakers using metal woofers.

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There are bizarre things like the PSB Alpha which is there because of bang for buck in its day but the new speakers from many other speakers in that price range easily beat the Alpha.thogh the Alpha B is still a very good speaker for low money. But even the reviewer says there is better. This is not a list of best of products.innovative perhaps. RGA, I belive you are right when you said most of these speakers were innovative.

Most of speakers mentioned are from 60s and 70s and probably were best in their time frame. But some of them might still hold up pretty good today against contemporary speakers. Looking at their price, they better be ryewoods I also have heard alot about classic KLH speakers. Too bad today they are not the company they used to be as now they cater more toward lower end market. The other speaker I hears about also is Yamaha NS1000 loudspeaker. They seem to be monster in their glory days. Interesting list because some of the choices like the Infinity IRS and Dahlquist speakers were also on The Absolute Sound's list of most influential products since they began publication.

A lot of the products on the list indeed were ahead of their time but never caught on, while others were precursors for things ahead and very influential. It's also very interesting to see all of those various panel speakers on the list from now defunct manufacturers like Apogee and Acoustat. The list also points to some of the varied approaches that have been taken over the years, which is always interesting. I'm not even sure they were best in their day.there is a difference between good and innovative.

The latter simply means they started something different. The first Sony and Phillips cd players are on the list because CD was new technology.the players were truly terrible. But it began cd and since then has been totally re-done and fixed. The AR 3 is there because of the design concept and most considered it the best AR speaker made.which apparently wasn't saying much since a lot of folks think it was and is dungheep in a heavy box.

I have never yet liked the sound of a speaker with rear firing drivers which are tonally innacurate with phase problems and such. Others support that sound and think it's the best. Sound however is directional and should be directional. One reason I prefer two way designs that sound like all music is of one piece. It would be nice if one speaker could produce it all from a ONE-WAY.

The AR 3 is there because of the design concept and most considered it the best AR speaker made.which apparently wasn't saying much since a lot of folks think it was and is dungheep in a heavy box. I have never yet liked the sound of a speaker with rear firing drivers which are tonally innacurate with phase problems and such. Others support that sound and think it's the best. Sound however is directional and should be directional.

One reason I prefer two way designs that sound like all music is of one piece. It would be nice if one speaker could produce it all from a ONE-WAY. Acoustic Research was the result of the pioneering work done by Edgar Vilcher. Acoustic Research was responsible for more innovations in loudspeaker design than almost any other manufacturer I can think of.

AR pioneered the Acoustic Suspension principle and even today, the earliest AR 12 inch woofers will give some of the finest subwoofers a run for their money. The AR3 was the first truely full range compact loudspeaker being only 2 cubic feet. It made high quality stereophonic sound in the home a real possibility and was a benchmark against which all other speakers of its day were compared.

One of its major crimes was being inefficient in an era when amplifier electrical power was very expensive. It was the first speaker to use dome tweeters. It also used a dome midrange which was unique.

Whether you 'like it' or not, it was used successfully in many live versus recorded demonstrations including two I heard personally. This attested to its high degree of accuracy.

The AR3 design itself was evolved from the earlier AR1 which used a Western Electric tweeter. The design continued to be refined over a stretch of some 40 years from the mid 1950s to the early 1980 through such production units as AR3A, AR 10 Pi, ARLST, AR 303A and (Teledyne)AR9 which IMO is the ultimate expression of that concept. There are probably few manufacturers of loudspeakers which ever equaled the quality control exercised in the manufacture of AR speakers through most of their history. IMO, almost every one of the most highly prized loudspeakers (AR, KLH, and Advent not included) of every era used indirect firing sound in some way.

This recognized that fact that the limitations of direct firing loudspeakers in real rooms could not be overcome with only direct firing drivers and is especially apparant in the treble range. These products may include bipolar radiators or a long column of tweeters which puts the listener off axis of most of them, or indirect firing tweeters. Think of all the electrostatics, Vandersteen, Snell, JBL Paragon, Magneplanar and so many others which exploited the reflective surfaces of rooms to improve sound reproduction.

(I'm not going to type the B word.) Designers of two way speakers face an insurmountable problem and that is how to get only two loudspeaker drivers which are inherently resonant devices to sound like one non resonant device over 10 octaves. They are inevitably a compromise. BTW, by compromising the lowest 2 or 3 ocatves and then using a subwoofer, you no longer have a 2 way system. You have designed your own 3 way system so anyone who thinks they have only a two way but uses a subwoofer is only kidding themselves. The argument for it is all nice and swell but since pretty much everyone abandoned rear firing tweeters.because they bothered to listen to their speakers no doubt, any advantage the set-up had has obviously been surpassed by realistic presentations(even AR left the technology). Stats are dynamically poor and have no bass dynamics. ML keeps trying and failing to integrate subwoofers in to their panels and it just doesn't work.it would make more sense to use a sub.

I believe ML has finally given up on the integrated woofer - or will soon to copy Quad. In fact most classical only lovers seem to love Quad so I'm a little surprised you would go with any boxed speaker design. Stats are faster.

You are correct that the Standmounts greatest liability, and it's one all standmounts I have ever heard has, is deep bass. Bass adds a structure to the rest of the audible band that when it's missing can seem light weight. Big expensive floorstanders have to be top notch because while it adds that weight it often adds annoying resonances or sounds simply terrible in smaller apartment sized rooms. Which is why Woochifer touts subwoofers. The best place for the midrange and treble is not necessarily the best place for bass. So you pull your speaker 3 feet from a wall and the bass is fine but now you lose out, possibly, on the higher frequencies.

Two subwoofers placed very well handles the issue of stereo imaging and most quality subwofers will create more depth than any floorstander for sane money. It is also tue that a subwoofer creates a 3-way system. However the end user has much much more control of the sound.

Trouble is I have never heard a truly good system with subwoofers because 98% of the world does not know how to set it up properly and the Behringer site for the novice is awfully bloody hard to understand. With a lot of work on the buyer's behalf it can be done but it's work. I always hear the handoff between sub and speaker though - presumably if that was solved then for about 4k you should be able to get a totally full range system of supreme sound quality. Perhaps you have knowledge of the ultimate subwoofer out there. It's fine for a compnay to get credit for invention, it is also true that much of the time someone else will come along and improve upon the great idea.

And if AR invented Acoustic suspension then I tip my hat to AR. Whenever I go to a live concert, I am constantly amazed at how much bass there is compared to what most home sound reproduction systems put out. I don' t know if the people who design equipment are deaf or they just test it in an anechoic chamber, sign it off and ship it out. Any sound system which cannot reproduce deep bass is not high fidelity in my book. The tone of an orchestra, the power of the low register instruments themselves including pipe organs, pianos, cellos is lost without bass. So is the rhythm. One test I listen for whenever I hear a new speaker if I have the opportunity is for plucked double basses and cellos accompanying other instruments.

If you can't feel them, you aren't getting anything like what a real orchestra sounds like and this is a very common compositional technique so it isn't something that you rarely hear. I think this is one criteria acousticians use for judging concert halls as well. Bass reinforcement is critical to any good hall. One problem with using a separate subwoofer is that unless it is physically close to the speaker it is used with, there will be major cancellations and reinforcements in the frequency range where the their frequency response transition occurs. This translates into major peaks and dips in frequency response in that region which is very annoying to listen to. Booming resonances on some notes and nothing audible on others. Therefore the designer who builds the subwoofer into the rest of his speaker system can optimally integrate it.

If I were contemplating a subwoofer, I would buy two and use them as stands for the main speakers. I don't know much about the current market for subwoofers. Possibly the first subwoofer was the monster used in the Infinity Servo Static I.

If there is a clone of it or at least something in the same vein, I'd guess it is a Velodyne servo conrolled 15' woofer. That's where I would start.

Among other inventions, AR invented the dome tweeter and ferrofluid cooling. This allowed the design of small drivers that could handle a lot of power and hence produce high volume without distortion and yet have a very wide dispersion up to a high frequency when compared with all of the available alternatives such as horns or conventional cones. Yet when compared to the dispersion of woofers and midranges, even the best tweeters are relatively directional especially in the highest octave where directional cues are so important for stereo reproduction (what some people call imaging or sound staging I suppose.) Anyone doubting this should look at polar responses of speakers as a function of frequency.

They all tell the same story to one degree or another which is one of nearly omnidirectional dispersion at low and mid frequencies and increasingly limited dispersion as the frequency goes up. The solution to the problem of early reflections of low and mid frequencies but not high frequencies has been to pull the speakers away from the back wall, use sound absorbing material on the back wall, or add more indirect firing tweeters. This last method allows the speaker to be placed close to the wall where bass reinforcement is much greater. Don't tell pctower that an indirect firing tweeter is no good. He might just wind up throwing out his prized Vandersteen Vs. Likewise owners of Snell AIIIi and Revel Salon. (I've added 3 to each of my AR9s and KLH 6s.

Still haven't figured out how to fix the (original)Bose 901s yet. That's a tough nut to crack.) I don't belive Acoustic Research ever used an indirect firing tweeter in any of its models. You sound like you are personally modifying the AR9. You can add these drivers to most any speaker if you want to. You also are not truly being realistic. To condemn speakers for not having enough bass is fine when money is no object but the reality is that good bass(not just a lot of it) costs a tremendous amount of money - for CURRENT loudspeakers.

The trade-off is so obvious when you hear any big line of speakers the little Standmount is far faster sounding with the trade-off being that no a double bass and organ is not going to have justice done.though some will at least allude to the fact that it's there. Trouble is A LOT of speakers that can do those Organ and double basses are slugs in the midrange and some have annoying metal tweeters that zing up and completely ruin violins. Directionality means a smaller sweetspot which is not the worst thing in the world.proper system set-up can fix that up. Your assessment of SUbs is the same as my assessment.the best ones are the ones that are built specifically for the standmount like the Gershman Acoustics Sub 1 for the X1 and I suppose the Wilson Puppy for the Watt(never heard the combo).

If you're a big organ music fan then I can certainly see where you're coming from.you're going to need a considerable speaker - and if you're looking at the current speakers on the market - and let's be fair and compare STOCK speakers then what currently as a stock speaker would you buy. The AR9 as a stoick speaker apparently had phase problems and was considered pretty average.you fixed them up. But this does not help current buyers looking for speakers. Most view the Quads as best for classical music as stock speakers - The 63 to me is overpriced dynamically and bass void but they seem to be greatly loved and have lasted forever so maybe they're built for the small British apartments and strictly chamber and light ensemble stuff. Is there a reason that a thread that ended in 2004 is being dug up? Joe I can afford almost any panel going past or present - I disagree with your conclusion - generally speking the ESL needs to be gigantic - and few rooms can support them adequately. Which is one reason I have avoided them.

Most of the smaller ones like Martin Logan realize the problem and have put conventional woofers in to try and compensate for the big problems that stats have in the bass and dynamics region. But in my listening ML has created more problems than they have solved and I would still prefer to listen to the Quads. The 989 is the smallest best panel I have heard. And a number of boxed speakers I have heard still do dynamics, bass drive and pressure better. Quads do the holographic imaging and some of the unrelated to music but 'audiophile' stuff much better than most.

The 989 is the only one I have heard that I think I could live with long term - but it isn't my first choice. Hey Joe, you've been contemplating that Apogee for a while now.

I cant believe some of the price I see on Agon too. $5000 for Apogee Grand? They'll just take up my space though. I think the Dude was talking about this newbie named Barney.

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BTW, are you gonna buy that CTI shirt? Every time I pass a Porsche dealer my head gets twisted around! After all, I am also a gear head.

Where did you see Apogee Grand's for $5k? They don't take up much floor space though do tend to dominate a room. My thinking is that if I have Apogee's for fronts the need/desire for them in the rear will take over. Besides buying two pair of speakers I would have to change all my power amps! When I look at things from that perspective the Cayman looks more and more inviting. It's a definite yes on the shirt.

I'll dig out some plastic today and go for it. I usually don't buy anything from ebay but a t-shirt is no real expense. Not one entry from James B. Lansing is a joke. The 42xx/43xx/L100 series monitors blow away almost everything on that list, and did'nt mention any of the horn stuff or the later, and seriously Rock'n 4410/12's with Ti tweeter's. No late 70's Pioneer HPM stuff with giant voice coil, carbon cones, ribbon tweeters, except for the NS1000, all the other stuff is 'east coast' sound stuff. 'West coast' sounding speakers, or, lets face it, JBL's, or loud monitors, never get there due respect.

Until, you buy them, and use them. Perhaps I'm missing something here.

A decent audiophile quality sub costs about $1,000 and up, you really should use two, it sounds better. Now to keep it relative, good audiophile speakers start at about $5,000.

Yes I know there are many quite decent speakers for less, but to get that hard to define elegance you need to spend near that amount or more not counting good electronics and cables to run the things. So as to what I'm missing why can't those same 5K and up speakers deliver kick ass bass? Adding a grand per speaker to the expensive models almost gets lost in the pricing, worse a sub added to an exisiting cabinet should have some savings from reduced duplication of box, feet, connectors etc. My friend and I designed our own 3 way. Using a Scanspeak 10' woofer with an Fs of 19.5 Hz (better than many sub woofers) we get honest bass to 20 Hz.

The driver is under $200 retail, I'm sure it's less for OEMs. Like all speakers that deliver decent bass cabinet sizes go up, you can't get there from here with small boxes. Those tiny subs with slope or servo correction and massive amps just don't seem to end up sounding very musical.

My point is that good bass can be done especially at the 5K and up price points. One big problem (pun intended) is the size of the damn things. The biggest problem I hear and read all the time is that, if speakers can't play Classical music superbly, it's not considered audiophile speakers. I'm not obsessed with that word 'Audiophile' at all, but kinda shytty how designers focus alot on Classical and Acoustic music. Classical music seems to be the hardest to reproduce accurately.

What I mean by accurate is that it has a much wider dynamic range than most other music, it uses practically every instrument ever invented and it often plays all of them at once which makes any HiFi system work very hard and thereby shows up weaknesses in that system It's not the musical content but the technical difficulty of playing classical music well that I think makes it a choice for many reveiwers. Actually classical music is limited. A synthesizer covers more frequency response at limitless permutations of dynamics. So technically the best thing to illustrate technical perfomance would be a sysnthesizer and NOT classical music. Having said that the real reason classical is used is because we have a known reference of what instruments sound like such as piano or vilin whereas we have far less with an electric guitar player running through an amplified set-up. Having said that all music coming from a stereo is in the end AMPLIFIED.

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So the classical music guros argue bogus condemnation of rock and pop and folk classical and often even Jazz. The bottom line is that no electrostat no matter how expensive sounds like a Horn loudspeaker (at even more money).

What is better? The K-Horn has been selling for more than 40 years and no it's not perfect but yes it is very good - the question is the three things that it does better by a MILE than any panel can offer up more important to you than three things that a good panel can do that the K-horn can't. Looking around and see which companies went belly up and how many HE/Tube set-ups there are and how many panel makers are around and it is clear that both have a great deal of supporters. Which is why Quad and Klipsch are still selling.